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  • Xometry Engineer

    Great question! This is best approached with good CAD and a good drawing:

    1. CAD – design your hole or boss feature with the recommended drill diameter for the insert. This will be larger than the tap drill size since it accommodates the insert. Make sure it’s the drill diameter so there is material to cut threads into (I just recently saw someone accidentally design to the major diameter and get surprised when their inserts just fell through the hole)!
      1. Please give extra clearance below the bottoming depth of the threaded insert! Or else you risk installation that is above-flush with the surface.
    2. Drawing – this is where you call out the threaded insert (helicoil, KATO, etc.):
      1. Add a BOM or note with the part number of the insert you called out and how many are needed.
      2. If ambiguous, add an isometric view or call out to show the direction of installation (more common in sheet products with a thru-hole).
      3. Minor countersinks are nice on holes with threaded inserts to remove burrs.
      4. On your arrow call out you can say “DRILL AND TAP FOR [SIZE OR P/N] HELICOIL INSERT”
      5. If there is a tang, you should call out in the notes to remove the tang.
      6. I like having a call out on notes to install sub-flush, e.g., [TOP COIL TO BE 0.75 P TO 1.5P BELOW SURFACE]. P is pitch, so imagine you’re installing at least 3/4 threads below flus but no more than 1.5x threads.

    For more reading you can look up your helicoil and you can usually find a nice guide like this one: https://www.stanleyengineeredfastening.com/-/media/Web/SEF/Resources/Docs/Heli-Coil/HC-2000_rev11_web.pdf

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    Xometry Engineer

    Hi! Yes, knowing the tolerances of FDM your best best is to slightly oversize the hole. E.g., offset the face by 0.13 mm (which will open the hole up by 0.26 mm overall) for a tight fit, or 0.18 mm if a small air gap is OK. I also recommend using solid infill as it makes it easier in using a drill or reamer to hit a desired size post printing (this can easily be done with a hand drill or press).

    Now, looking at your file I do have to ask if you’ve considered SLS or MJF? Those little side holes are for a set screw, right? In FDM they’ll look oblong and coarse. SLS and MJF post-drill like butter so you can build the part and drill/ream to your precision needs.

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    in reply to: Will a 6mm dowel fit in this hole?
    Xometry Engineer

    If the thread is standard, we don’t recommend modeling it in the CAD provided and instead calling it out in a technical drawing. Threads have different sizes and classes, which relate directly to how the thread will be manufactured and inspected. Modeled threads may not fully incorporate the nuances of a manufacturing process; even if we have the right die or tap for the thread, it becomes a mess to chase if already formed.

    In your drawing I see no clearance between male and female thread features. That’s not the reality of good thread design, as clearance is always necessary, and features must have tolerances. Again, this is a good reason to call out the thread requirement on a drawing so there is something to inspect against.

    If this is a 3D print I would recommend modeling coarse threads, especially if they are custom, but also incorporate adequate surface offset to compensate for the selected process.

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    in reply to: Is drawing needed for modeled threads?
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    Xometry Engineer

    We made a few articles on designing normal to surface cuts in tubes, which you should check out! The one that gets slightly tricky is miter on round tube. I’m a big fan of delete face and thicken for most other cuts.

    1. Normal to Surface Cuts in Tube Manufacturing
    2. Designing Normalized Coped Cuts on Round Tube
    3. Designing Normalized Mitered Cuts on Round Tube
    4. Designing Normalized Mitered Cuts on Rectangle Tube
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    in reply to: How do I normalize my cuts in CAD?
    Xometry Engineer

    FDM, particularly industrial FDM like running on a Stratasys Fortus, will be the best plastic 3D printing process to mitigate warping. I recommend exploring materials like ASA and polycarbonate for large, broad, flat parts. Avoid “warpy” plastics like nylon or ULTEM unless absolutely necessary.

    FDM is better than SLS or MJF because the parts are built attached to a flat build plate. SLS and MJF do not have any supporting structures so broad parts can twist or flex during cooling. The sacrifice is in detail resolution. Maybe you could explore a hybrid approach in your design or splitting and assembling to achieve your results.

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    in reply to: 3D printing large flat parts
    Xometry Engineer
    Joao Garcia

    Adding to this–I always recommend powder coat if cosmetic color matching and consistency is the goal. As Joao mentioned, anodize will be slightly different from batch to batch due to pigmentation and color control is limited.

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    in reply to: Can you color match anodize?
    Xometry Engineer

    Hey I want to chime in with an article we wrote on Understanding and Preventing Vapor Smoothing Defects. 1mm is a recommended minimum because you may get some bubbling, bridging, etc. on your features. Another thing to note is that the solvent sticks to parts via condensation. If you have fine/thin features on your part and thicker features elsewhere you may find inconsistent finishes. I recommend trying one part before production to see how you like it.

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    in reply to: Vapor smooth very thin parts?
    Xometry Engineer

    Hi, Emma.

    You can make watertight SLS parts by paying special attention to the sealing surfaces. Typically wall thickness around ~2 mm will be watertight. Leaks most likely will be at the junction where you are sealing. E.g., where you may have a cap or gasket. This is because of the inherently rough surface area of SLS nylon. Here’s what you can do:

    1. Design wise, mitigate sealing points to focus on specific areas. Try to have all sealing surfaces as circular vs. irregular, and don’t have any weird T-joint seals because they’re so tough to guarantee a seal. Make sure you have features like screws on the outside of the seal so you don’t have to seal each screw hole. Seals should be given even pressure and be backed up by some sort of mechanical restraint (screws, caps, clips, etc.)
    2. Smooth the part and sealing surface:
      1. Easiest, but risky: Chemical vapor smooth will help give a smoother surface across the part. I’d do this even if I’m doing the other suggestions below.
      2. Expensive, but less risky: Post-machining, however, is the best way to get a sealable surface (you need to add extra material to your design and post machine away. 
      3. Tedious, but doable: Sand, epoxy fill, and sand again the sealing surfaces.
    3. Use multiple o-rings, if possible, with silicone grease to help fill the voids. If it’s an irregular surface, use a silicone caulk.
    4. Test with a light submersion and water indicating strips (or just paper) on the inside.

    I have made SLS parts hit IP69, which was 1 hr, 10-meter saltwater submersion. Don’t worry about the hygroscopic nature of nylon for prototyping unless the total life of the product is underwater.

    Thanks!

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    Xometry Engineer

    I’ll answer in the context of Xometry but also give general guidelines as I helped launch the US sheet cutting offerings:

    Typically, count out plasma. Between fiber laser and waterjet, there is just so much more repeatability and precision than plasma cutting. There are some super great modern plasmas, but most cutters out there on the network are for fabrication, where the edge condition will require some secondary treatment like cleanup and welding. 

    Laser is typically more precise than waterjet, but our manufacturing standards are amicable for both technologies. The thicker the material, the more likely a waterjet will be used (waterjets can cut basically anything). It’s important on your end to specify critical dimensions that are tighter than the manufacturing standards for that process. Edge condition may also be a consideration and there are methods/equipment to taper-correct on deeper cuts. This may require a manual quote review, and in some cases, the tolerances are just not reasonable for “first cut results” with a sheet cutting process and may require machining (e.g., a 2.5-axis mill). Xometry has access to all these abilities, it just may require a manual review if you’re asking for tolerances or feature sets beyond the norm for a sheet cutting process.

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    Xometry Engineer

    I agree with the comments already made about when/how Solidworks is used vs. Fusion on assemblies. Solidworks definitely has more mature tools available and is typically more responsive when you’re spinning the integrated assembly. It also has great tools specific to using profiled structures and weldments.

    Fusion’s advantage is in accessibility and price. It is still a robust CAD platform that is often an order of magnitude cheaper to access. I can’t use it for our work because it’s cloud-based, and we work on export-restricted projects with strict IT limitations (I’m in the US, so ITAR, for example). I have worked with collaborative projects with Autodesk and like their sharing options for viewing, commenting, and editing. Being invited to a project is great and allows you to dive in with others quickly. I don’t feel those collaboration tools are as convenient with Solidworks.

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    Xometry Engineer

    Echoing Michael’s post. 0.7 mm is relatively thin, so upping it slightly will help with flow and stability. Strength can be achieved through ribs, which should be about 60% of the outer wall thickness. Warp is something the Xomtery IM team can review as part of their DFM feedback, and there are techniques the team can use to mitigate risk to critical features within tooling design and molding operations. What’s best is that you provide your file for their review along with a technical drawing highlighting critical features for mates and function. 

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    Xometry Engineer

    Ooh this is a good question, and there are useful apps for every occasion. As an Xometry team member, I have to talk about the app we have for Fusion, SolidWorks (US download/EMEA download), and Onshape since it can give you quoting and DFM feedback on your design while you’re in the design stage. The metaphor I always give is it helps you make a course correction while on the road vs. getting to the wrong destination and having to turn around. E.g., designing a part and then finding out when you’re working with your manufacturer that it needs a lot of changes to hit manufacturability or budgetary goals. On a personal note, I’m tuning up my home 3D printer and am about to go on an organization spree. I’ve been eyeing the GridfinityGenerator app for Fusion to template out tools, bits, and shop organization! I also enjoy apps for common COTS/hardware like McMaster or Misumi.

    Xometry Engineer

    6061-T6 is an excellent material with a high-performance strength-to-weight ratio, but it’s not ideal for forming because it can crack in that condition and break at the bend. 5052-H32 is better suited for forming because of its higher fatigue strength and malleability. It will have different properties, so you may look into designing other features like gussets or putting a weld in at the joints for additional strength.

    Even with a 3x radius to thickness this part may have risk and requires review if you choose to stay with 6061-T6. I recommend speaking with an Xometry team member once you have your quote in place so they can review the design and feedback.

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    Xometry Engineer

    Great question. DMLS is precise enough that if you build the hole to the standard drill size, it can be directly tapped during post-processing. In this case, M10 threads would require an 8.5 mm hole. If this is a blind hole, please make sure that you have extra room for the tap to engage into the threads since the taps have a taper at the tip. I like to add 3-4 pitches of additional clearance at the bottom of my blind hole if possible to make sure threads are cut cleanly to my desired thread depth.

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    in reply to: Tapping threads – DMLS parts
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